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Politics The Donkey in the room...the Democrats today

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by ASU2003, Mar 1, 2015.

  1. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    A freshman Democrat brought receipts to the GOP's hearing on D.C. crime — MSNBC

    Now THIS is what Dems should do…
    Stop being polite, stop being quiet
    Call the GOP bad out
    Shout it out

    They’ve been letting the shameless get away with everything.
    Or if they investigate, they put up a report with no consequences or continued power on it.

    WTF happened to the Jan 6th committee???
    They gave a report, then whiff…nothing.

    The Dems need to start playing hardball.

    One side lobs grenades, the other whiffleball. :rolleyes:

    Call them on their shit.
    Damn the other side is making crap up on y’all
    They making mountains out of molehill.
    Y’all are making ditches out of mountains.

    At least a few are doing it. Like here.
    The rest… snooze fest. And that includes Biden.
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  2. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    The case against Democrats bed-wetting over Biden — POLITICO

    This description fits the Dems to a T (no pun intended)

    Good to the point article
    I like their attitude

    It’s going to be a long time to election day.
    Lots can happen. Lots of work to do.

    They need to be like Biden
    Joe Cool and be the adult in the room.

    Stuff to do. Things need fixing.
    Chill and be real.

    Ignore the news and its horse races.
  3. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Large City, TX
    How can the Dems quit playing nice, and be the adults in the room?
  4. boink

    boink Slightly Tilted

    Wally, how come grownups are mean ?

    Well Beve, sometimes it seems like they're all mean but they've already done a bunch of dumb stuff and just want you to avoid that.

    But how can I learn if I don't do some dumb stuff too ?

    Your just supposed to listen to their stories and believe them.

    Yeah, I spose Wally. But I still think if I do dumb stuff I learn a little better.

    Ya know Beve, that's true, it's like saving money for a new baseball glove instead of dad just buying it for you.

    I'm not super worried about Biden. Mostly he seems coherent. Barring tragic health events I think he can hang on.
    The opposition, I know is fully off the rails, disconnected to reality, with a mountain of evil intent and, with a cadre of idiots and opportunistic grifters and evil doers following him.
    I also feel like the majority of the voting public is still preceptive enough to know this.
    It often dosn't seem like it but it's always people making the most noise that gets air time.

    Worry and hand wringing is reasonable considering we're in the biggest cult/mass delusion event we've seen in a long while. Nobody alive has actual experience with the last mass psychogenic psychosis disorder.

    https://www.swfinstitute.org/news/9...ple lose,regardless of data proving otherwise.

    Stress opens a door to poor judgement. There's a lot of real stress going on and a lot of false invented stressors being yelled about on the news channel with the most viewership.

    Real stressors like loosing some practical use of mega dollar coastline realestate, more than usual catastrophic weather events across the states etc. may help focus turn from the invented ones which usually drive people together like a bucket brigade to a barn fire.

    Stories about "that Mexican or, that LGBTQ at the food bank took some extra time to help me get formula for my baby/ find my family space at a shelter/ help me haul a truck of trash away from my hurricane destroyed house, maybe they ain't so bad."
    Maybe Ted Cruze who took a flight out of the country actually dosn't care about me after all ??? Why did I vote for him ? Oh yeah he cooked bacon on the heat shield of an AR-15 haha, that was cool.
    More stories like that could turn the tide a little here and there.
    So maybe actual reality based tragedy without help from GOP leaders will change some minds.

    But yeah, on paper and in the previous election it seems we should be ok.

    If we see economic tragedy it'll be harder to turn minds because financial stuff is always a lot easier to muddy up reality over.

    Stress leads to desperate solutions. Like that crazy JFK conspiracy guy who just died on a motocross track. He had some financial problems and looked to clickbate gold coins, which had links to banking system failures, then (probably) illuminati bullshit and bang ! You're on Alex Jones site and one click away from a Christian nationalist site reading about pizzagate and furniture being a placeholder in a catalog for human trafficking of babys. Pulling up anchor on reality and floating off to the the shit show.

    The majority of voters I think will be more pragmatic. Most can't and won't leave their jobs and go all militia rioting.
    Most have jobs and families and will put that first and as we move towards the next election. The increasing looniness of maga should tire people out. If you have a family your already invested in the normalcy of day to day living and not total upheaval of known functioning society with no solid picture of what the goal even looks like.

    Taylor Swift and Barbie could help.
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  5. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Large City, TX
    The news media definitely magnifies the squeaky wheel by giving it too much coverage...because excitement sells.

    OTOH I'm pretty sure there are plenty of dedicated magatards willing to take up arms. 06 JAN 2021 is a good example. I can see people trying to block the motorcade transporting NPD Trump to prison (if he ever actually goes to prison).

    I seriously hope our government doesn't try to play nice with our domestic terrorists.
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  6. boink

    boink Slightly Tilted

    There's more than I had thought prior to t's admin but I don't think enough to really overthrow the country now. Some say j6 was a rehearsal but if that's true it was a rehearsal and preview for the Dems too. I think we will be more ready-ish going forward.

    Obviously we have, probably an inevitable bundle of folks who spend their time "investigating" bullshit year round now. That will probably be a constant background noise as a normal thing like flat earthers.

    I still have a hard time thinking they'll be a real upheaval like "national divorce" civil war.

    Excitement sells like gas sells. We all want it so we can't totally blame the media anymore than oil companies if we keep buying gas powered cars.
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  7. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    You can do both.
    Before when Obama was prez, he was an adult in the room, but he played too nice...
    letting the GOP sucker him and always trying to be overly fair.

    Same thing with the Dems now, trying to play fair and the high ground...when the GOP is playing vicious and unfair.
    Gotta play hardball, punch some noses, call (repeatedly) when someone is being a lying POS.
    Arrest corrupt players, or investigate those that are seemingly seditious.

    You CAN be an adult, doing your job, executing for the public, working for the citizens,
    but still not be suckers for bullies and come out hard on those twisting the rage machine.

    You can be a gentleperson when the opposition is being a gentleperson.
    but if they're being threatening, then punch back. (within the law)
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  8. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    The Dems have a day. :)
    Or the GOP had a not so good one. :confused:

    Voting trends were positive, IMHO.

    Let's hope it keeps going into next year.
    Because I don't want crazy in power. (and I do mean crazy, y'all made your bed...even many the non-crazy are complicit, allowing it to happen.)

    And let's hope that the Dems don't fuck it up. :oops:
    I'd rather have pathetic than crazy.
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  9. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Large City, TX
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