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Politics The Elephant in the room...The GOP today

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by rogue49, Aug 28, 2012.

  1. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    I wouldn’t mind a Parliament
    More, faster elections
    And the prez becomes a PM
    With a lot less power

    With one House
    And certainly not as wacky as Italy

    I wish no parties allowed
    Everyone is independent
     
  2. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

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    With modern computers there could be some interesting election concepts. Like, each voter can write down up to 100 names of who they think should be in the "new senate". And then use rank voting to come up with the top 100 names. And I bet it would never be done again, but you could get some good people in there and some really bad ones too... Being famous is going to be more important than knowing how government works.

    I would like to see anti-voting implemented if we continue with political parties. It would be controversial and a nightmare for establishment campaigns and the media to explain, but in the primary, if enough Democrats vote against one person on the GOP candidates in the primary, that person wouldn't be able to win. Same with the GOP taking out the Democrat they most dislike. It might make the polarization a little better if neither side gets someone who only appeals to their base and the other side hates.
     
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  3. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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  4. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Followup...or tangent event...
    High-profile Republicans reportedly Zoomed to discuss forming their own center-right party

    Looks like quite a few are breaking with Mr. T
    I still think they've got a LONG way to go. Some of these figures have done some miserable things and haven't acted or spoken with honesty or integrity.
    However, something is better than nothing,
    And I do believe in redemption.
    BUT...I also believe people can slip back.
    So as Reagan said, Trust but verify. (that goes for everyone...no matter the party)

    No matter what NAME you call yourselves, you gotta rebuild that rep.
     
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  5. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Truly the elephant in the room...

    There’s a good portion of the population that’s really screwed up. 33%
    A third of the population...
    and many wouldn’t hesitate to use force to get what they want.

    The key is, they do NOT respect that other people live in the same world.

    Question is...they’ve shown what they want
    And what they’re capable of
    AND they won’t stop

    What do we do about it???

    Sure, “some” are breaking with them
    But there’s still an infection, a raging infection.
    What do you do about it?

    They’ve tried everything
    Tried to be fair
    And still they rage

    Is it time to do serious actions??

    What do you do when a part of your family has become detached from reality?
    And has become a danger.
     
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  6. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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  7. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

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    Nobody mentioned Rush Limbaugh dying (not that I've seen, but I've been dealing with power outages and bad water).

    He's not worth a thread.

    My condolences go to his family and close friends, the people who knew him closely.

    Not his followers in general.

    I also say good riddance to a right-wing asshole who played the Us vs Them divide to the maximum to increase his personal wealth. You could make the argument he helped create the extreme bipartisan divide we have today. He was also a hypocrite who bought his way out of a felony drug conviction,* and he attacked people on very personal levels.

    * I know that addiction to pharmaceutical opiates is a real problem. If Rush had been a street addict, or even a common white collar addict, with limited money and no powerful friends, he would've gone to prison. It must have been nice to be Rush Limbaugh, to be white, rich, and hold massive power in/over a political party.
     
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  8. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Followup on Rush croaking...
    Opinion | We’re living in the world Rush Limbaugh created — The Washington Post

    Yes, we are living in the nation created by Rush
    ...and Hannity, etc...all the media fear mongers past and present

    And the fear mongering politicians too.

    The have built up, fed on and glut a horde of conspiracy driven portion of the population.

    All for...money.

    They get popular, get ads, get donations, get influence
    All to gain more fame and fortune.

    They don’t care if it hurts the nation
    They don’t care if it hurts people

    Their only care is manipulating to get more for themselves
    More attention, more ego strokes

    Like any player, narcissist, that uses you and tears your heart out (but here, they pull from your wallet)

    All the while claiming everyone ELSE is stealing from you.

    Listen, the world isn’t magic...luck can be often crap
    But you’re fooling yourself if you think it’s the fault of “others” outside your immediate vicinity.

    Bad luck is usually driven by the pettiness and selfishness of those immediately around us.
    And to be honest, often our own mistakes.

    The only thing all people can do is work and fight
    Secure yourself, prepare, climb, make good opportunities. Day after day.

    But there’s no conspiracy.
    Government if done right isn’t bad.
    Others aren’t out to “get you” or mucking up the system.

    Rush was a bottom feeder, so are his like.
    Fear, anger was his sugar to feed to the masses.

    While I don’t wish ill on anyone
    Death is the great equalizer
    The bad seed dies as much as the good.

    The nation is a lot better without him.
    As it would without others.

    We cannot ask for people’s death or harm
    But we CAN turn the channel.

    Listen to better things
    Or even enjoy the silence
     
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  9. omega

    omega Very Tilted

    Rush defeated cancer the Republican way: destroy the host to kill the disease.
     
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  10. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

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    The Republicans have no desire to kill the cancer.
    They had their chance.
    They let it go, with hopes it doesn't return.
     
  11. rogue49

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    Opinion | Rush Limbaugh died from lung cancer after denying smoking's risk. Why'd he believe his lie? — NBC News

    You just explained the whole problem with the GOP currently...

    They believe in their own lies.
    They rely on skewed ideas for success

    Ones that are created to sound good
    Not what actually works

    And instead of being surprised when it doesn’t work
    They double down on the lie.

    Taxes
    Immigration
    Government isn’t good
    Even the friggin’ riot
    Etc...

    First principal, do what’s healthy.
    Not excessive but balanced and rational
    Ask: what gets good results?

    Watch then to SEE if it gets good results
    Don’t just keep spitting out a lie.
    Even to yourself
     
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  13. redux

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  14. rogue49

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    Leaked Video Shows Alex Jones Ranting That He's So 'F**king' Sick Of Trump

    Yes, we're sick of him too.
    BUT for different reasons.
    Most of us for the chaos and damage he creates

    YOU because he's mucking up your con.
    What happens when multiple cons and scam-artists overlap???

    T, Jones, McConnell, Fox News, etc, etc, etc...
    There's only so many suckers and dupes in the nation.

    You're like hyenas or vultures all fighting over the same dying victim.
     
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  15. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

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    The number of people falling for the fake, or greatly exaggerated, right-wingers cons is amazing, but not surprising. Many people are like one of my gullible sisters, just touch on something they want to believe and you have them hooked.

    What will happen when the GOP needs--or at least wants--the money that's going directly to Trump?

    How will the PACs determine who gets how much?

    Whar happens if Trump is forced to step back?

    What happens if Trump makes a (hopefully failed) run at being the GOP presidential candidate in '24 that splinters the GOP?

    The GOP in general, most US Senators specifically, and Right Wing loudmouths, created Trumpenstein. And lost what very little control they had of him.