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Politics The Probe

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by rogue49, Oct 29, 2017.

  1. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

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    The comments about Impeachment II are spread out over at least two threads.

    57 (50 Dems, 7 Repubs) quilty.
    43 (0 Dems, 43 Repubs) not guilty.

    This travesty, this joke of "impartial" constitutional responsibility, will hurt a small number of Republican Senators in the short term. It will damage the Republican party in some ways, perhaps deeply, perhaps not.

    One thing is clear: Former 45th POTUS Donald John Trump got away with inciting an attack on the Capitol Building and Congress. Thankfully he did not achieve his ultimate goal of changing the 2020 election results and remaining president. He will now view being acquitted as the equivalent of having done nothing wrong, perhaps even never having been charged (in the mind of Donald Trump), much the same way he views settling lawsuits as victories.

    This was anticipated and predicted, and calling the result disappointing is putting it mildly. Totally disgusting is a better description.

    Since our politicians can't show the integrity and the courage to do the right thing, let us hope the criminal courts and the civil courts will enforce some justice on Donald John Trump.
     
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  2. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Schumer leaves door open to 14th Amendment measure to bar Trump from office — Fox News

    This is going to be an interesting twist
    I wonder if they can make it stick

    McConnell and more GOP leaders might actually allow it.
    And I don’t know if it’s a straight House/Senate vote
    Or would it be a Supreme Court thing?

    Probably a mixture of all the above
    And we’ve never use it before, so there would be a debate

    Folks, we’re in unprecedented times, using things never used before
     
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  3. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

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    Representative Joe Neguse appeared on CBS Face The Nation this morning.

    IMO he did very good job as one of the House impeachment managers.

    But this morning Neguse wasn't upset, he seemed relieved, even somewhat cheerful. TBF he might be one of those politicians who has spent decades forcing himself to always smile under any circumstance.

    I wanted to see anger and venom, not smiles and a sense of relief.
     
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  4. rogue49

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    Well, they knew already what they were in for.
    Frankly, I think they did it for 2 reasons

    1. Get it on record...for alternatives and leverage.
    2. See how the opposition reacted

    Now they can go after those who showed their hands and tells.

    Make you a bet politicians like Cruz and Graham will be in trouble real soon. (those who colluded with Ts lawyers)

    And they will be finding out more.

    Now that it’s on record.
    They can trigger National terrorist act, other national security acts and get various intelligence agencies involved.

    There’s a reason McConnell declared aloud after the acquittal...he’s trying to cover his ass. Decoy, delay, distract.

    They’re fucked. Why?
    They “declared war”
    Basically against the US.

    The Dems are going after them...
    With DOD, DHS, NSA, CIA, etc...

    They’ve threatened democracy and the constitution.

    Watch.
    Get the popcorn out.

    Who wants to place bets???
     
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  5. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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  6. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

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    Rudy Giuliani: Federal agents execute search warrants on Manhattan home and office - CNNPolitics


    I'm not sure where this belongs, but since it's probe related...

    The feds raided Counselori Giuliani's office and home, and confiscated documents and electronic devices.

    My understanding is strong evidence was needed just to obtain the search warrant(s), which should mean there is a solid case against him, which ties into a case against Trump.

    Let's hope Counselori kept detailed records. Incriminating detailed records.
     
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  7. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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  8. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

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    Yeah, no surprise. Barr only turned against* Trump after every election challenge failed and Barr's days were clearly numbered. Until then he was truly loyal to Trump and used the Justice Dept as Trump’s legal team, and police force.

    * His turning was very soft considering the knowledge he has of Trump misdealings. Of course Barr is also covering his own ass as well.
     
  9. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Like, oh crap!
    Someone else may be judging me!
     
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