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Politics The Probe

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by rogue49, Oct 29, 2017.

  1. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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  3. redux

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    View: https://twitter.com/macfarlanenews/status/1508094138998263812

    I agree with Kinsinger , one of the two Republicans on the House Select Committee to Investigate the events of Jan. 6, that the public hearings will be important for the country and the world to learn about the efforts to prevent Congress from certifying the 2020 election results and the extent to which those in Trump's inner circle (and Trump himself?) and others attempted to undermine the democratic process.

    Reports now are that televised hearings will likely begin in early May with some in prime time. There will be lots of witnesses under oath to walk through the various plots among the politicos around Trump and lots of never before seen videos of the MAGA mob at the US Capitol that day.

    I am pretty well convinced there will be some referrals to DoJ for criminal prosecution that will get very close to Trump, if not target Trump himself. What attorney general Garland does with those referrals is another matter. We could very well see criminal indictments down the road but probably not until after the mid-term elections in November.
     
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  4. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

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    I wonder how much quicker things would have, and would, move if we had full cooperation from both parties.

    Hopefully NPD Trump will be charged before the 2024 presidential election. At this point a trial and a conviction seem extremely optimistic, namely because of Republican obstructionism. Not that the Democrats, or the DOJ, appear to be in a hurry.
     
  5. rogue49

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    Judge: Trump likely committed crimes related to election

    Uhh, y'think??? :rolleyes:
    This phrase is going to be repeated as long as this takes.
    like "Duh" or "Really???" or so on.

    Because this shit is taking so LONG!!!
    Justice is blind, but she's also shuffling like Tim Conway's old man on qualudes.

    And they make it sound so ambiguous or surprising.

    It's like seeing your monogramed spinning wheels off your bling bling car in the neighbor's front yard...and the cops saying, "gee, I wonder if they stole them?" (while the neighbor gives the finger)
    And the prosecutors despite having a front door camera showing them stealing the hubcaps...wonders if they have a "provable case"
    And the judges saying, well some technicality says because they stole it on a holiday, it's only their 10 offense...we'll let them go with a warning.
    And and and...

    If it was any normal joe...
     
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  6. rogue49

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    Jan. 6 White House logs given to House show 7-hour gap in Trump calls — The Washington Post

    And they’re going to find more and more gaps
    This this is worse than Swiss Cheese
    This is a web…

    With a big orange poisonous spider at the center.

    Frankly, the punishment and aggressive actions they’re doing with Putin now,
    they should do with Trump (same pace, same diligence)

    The only difference is Putin showed his hand
    T is still hiding it all

    Danger of Putin is nukes and bombs
    Danger of Trump is a loss of the nation from within
    One is a Mack Truck hit, the other is a cancer.

    Look for the indicators
    Do a friggin’ CT scan. (MRI, etc…all the tests)
    Then do surgery
     
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  7. ASU2003

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  8. redux

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    View: https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1509288469020905473


    ...Last call is recorded at 11:17 am and it's an identified person, extremely vague. The next call recorded occurred at 6:54 pm. This gap raises big questions about what the president was doing at the time and whether he was using a so-called burner phone. Maybe a couple of them. They are disposable and untraceable.
    What is he hiding and what is he trying to cover up?

    More than seven hours, during the height of the MAGA violent assault on the US Capitol, with Trump and his inner circle watching from the White House and Trump on the phone with members of Congress and others, THERE ARE NO PHONE RECORDS.

    This dwarfs Nixon's 18 minutes of missing audio as a massive cover up!
     
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  9. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

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    I wonder how many people, namely those who are largely apathetic to political news, understand just how huge the over seven hours of no phone records really is.

    I'm not sure that NPD Trump and members of his inner circle were smart enough to avoid phone records on the fly, many things would have been happening involving many people. If the phone records were avoided rather than being altered, there was a plan in place in advance of the Capitol Building invasion.

    If phone records were altered after the fact, that absolutely is a massive cover-up.

    Perhaps the phone records will turn out to be one of the smoking guns needed to bring NPD Trump to justice. Putting him in prison would be great, keeping him out of the 2024 presidential election would be a good start.
     
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  10. rogue49

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    Justice Department investigating handling of White House records taken to Mar-a-Lago after Trump left office — CNN Politics

    Now we’ve got competing probes. :rolleyes:

    Dammit! Just share the friggin’ info with each other!
    You’re all adults .

    Make ya a bet someone is being selfish, territorial or using an excuse of an “investigation” to bloke the probe to actually help T.
    (DOJ is a bit notorious having conservative players inside)
    So game play or resistance isn’t unexpected.

    Only the top political powers are Dem and pro-Biden

    This crap gets so complicated and muddy.
    Anything can muck them up.
     
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  12. ASU2003

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    There are quite a few scenarios where this could have become a big mess. Georgia and Arizona were close enough that it would have been a lot different had there only been one state that needed the state legislature send different electors, or even stall and run out the clock on certifying the results and not sending any electors.

    The problem is that I haven't heard of anyone or any group trying to fix the problems to prevent this from happening in the future.
     
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  14. Chris Noyb

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  16. Chris Noyb

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    If NPD Trump's record is anything to go by, collecting could be an interesting problem. I hope the courts can freeze his accounts to keep the money available while the molasses process continues.
     
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  17. rogue49

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    Judge issues big rebuke of GOP effort to delegitimize Jan. 6 committee

    No soup for you!
    And by a Trump appointee yet.
    The GOP must be fuming.
    BUT...they're going to get Roe V Wade overturned. So they got that.

    And if the committee and the Dems don't act soon...the GOP is going to steamroll everything else.
    Can't drag your feet in a foot race...in this case, a stampede. :eek:
     
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  18. rogue49

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    http://www.fark.com/goto/12356619

    Taking notes on a conspiracy…

    Hmmm, YOUR handwriting
    Not typed
    Sounds like a smart idea...
    One done by the smartest person EVAR!!! :rolleyes:
     
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  20. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

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    It would be nice if this leads to some actual action soon.

    Right now it's more cold bureaucratic molasses.