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Trayvon Martin.

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by mixedmedia, Mar 21, 2012.

  1. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    whoo, boy. smells like troll up in here.
     
  2. redux

    redux Very Tilted

    Location:
    Foggy Bottom
    Damn and I thought Zimmerman initiated the confrontation because as he told the dispatcher, "these assholes always get away" rather than listen to the dispatcher and stay is his car.

    In which case, there certainly never would have been a problem.

    I must be reading the wrong press.
     
  3. Bodkin van Horn

    Bodkin van Horn One of the Four Horsewomyn of the Fempocalypse

    Fixed that for you. Saved a ton of letters too.
     
  4. KirStang

    KirStang Something Patriotic.


    Well. Someone grounded and pounded may very well end up dead.

    Just that there wouldn't be a firestorm of media drivel, looking to stir up shit, since it would be a relatively routine crime, instead.
     
  5. redux

    redux Very Tilted

    Location:
    Foggy Bottom
    Perhaps the routine profiling of young black men, both institutionally with programs like NYC "stop and frisk" and personally with comments like "these asshole always get away" is a reason to stir up shit.
     
  6. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    So, is "assholes" referring specifically to the color of his skin or his age bracket or his attire?

    I mean, put a ginger on my lawn and I'll call that little fuck an asshole just as quickly, dude.

    Maybe Z-bag doesn't like punk-ass kids. Maybe he doesn't like the baggy hoodlum look.

    I mean, I think a lot of TFPers are assholes and, hell, that applies to a wide swath.

    Let's get down to the bottom of generic insults for people we don't like.

    "Oh, it's blatantly obvious he's referring to race."

    Uh-huh.

    ...

    The best part about this whole debacle is that we're all psychics.

    Bad part is that Zimmerman's version of the story is all we've got.

    I'm really starting to dislike Stay-Puft the Vigilante Man. Real turd.

    Total apathy before. Now I'm full of questions about his behavior.

    He is, in fact, a "creepy-ass cracker." I think we all agree on that one.

    ...

    When we're done with T-Z shit sandwich, I hope we move on to more pressing matters.

    I'd love to know what the fuck happened with Bengazi. Or that whole gov't spying thing.

    Or how the IRS got away with Star Trek videos. Or how that slimy fuck Holder has a job.
     
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  7. redux

    redux Very Tilted

    Location:
    Foggy Bottom
    I wont dispute your characterization of "asshole" both generally and in Zimmerman's words.

    The fact remains that if you are a young black man, there is a much higher likelihood of being profiled and stereotyped as a "threat" than a young white man, in both the criminal justice system and in personal reactions and behaviors.

    We can ignore it and it will continue or we can "stir up shit" and acknowledge it and attempt to address it.
     
  8. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    ______!

    * Edited for Mediocre Trolling.​
     
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  9. redux

    redux Very Tilted

    Location:
    Foggy Bottom
    I would suggest that race relations and racial profiling, rightly or wrongly brought to the forefront as a result of this case, is a still a pressing matter...one that we continue to ignore and pat ourselves on the back for coming so far in the last 50 years.

    Or we could post links to Fuck white people and call it even.
     
  10. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    I think we'd all prefer the former but the latter sure is therapeutic, don't you think?

    Most of what the media seems to be dispensing is bad therapy.

    I think we need some more 9/11 crash footage.
     
  11. Bodkin van Horn

    Bodkin van Horn One of the Four Horsewomyn of the Fempocalypse

    I have a hunch that sans gun, Zimmerman leaves the harassing of minorities to the experts, drives home, eats the better part of a frozen pizza and falls asleep before he has a chance to clean himself up after jerking off to pretend hidden camera pornography.
     
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  12. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    Nice niche choice.
     
  13. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

    Location:
    Reading, UK

    Of course, he wasn't the young fellow still being portrayed on right wing sites either.

    [​IMG]

    ^^The photo on the right was taken from the facebook page of one Trayvon Martin. A Trayvon Martin who is still very much alive.

    Nor was he 6'2 and 175 lbs. He was 5' 11" and 158lbs.

    The media plays it both ways. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.

    [​IMG]

    Trayvon is the young man in the orange shirt standing on the right.

    And I have yet to learn what 'grave error' Trayvon made though I'm beginning to realize that in some places in the South, it's once again an error for young black men to react as any white man would in the same situation. Best he just shuffle his little "nigga" ass home once he'd been profiled.

    And I've yet to see any real evidence (aside from the defendant's claim) that Trayvon wasn't attempting to do just that when he discovered he was being followed by an older Latino looking man. If Trayvon did confront his pursuer, he would certainly have had a right to do so, under Florida's "stand your ground" laws.
     
  14. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    And so Bodkin reveals just a little bit more about his mysterious self.
     
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  15. Bodkin van Horn

    Bodkin van Horn One of the Four Horsewomyn of the Fempocalypse

    That was my scenario for Zimmerman. If it were me, the masturbation would have occurred in the context of season 3 of The West Wing.
     
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  16. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    Oh, this thread is constantly refreshed because it's so big and awkward that nobody can pay attention to comments made 3 pages ago. Good thing I love to hear myself talk, amiright?

    Trayvon's 'grave error' was that he was walking through an unfriendly neighborhood at an odd hour. No different than a gringo kid walking through the barrio or Roachboy attending a Tea Party convention.

    Zimmerman was a predator. Just because he was wearing the meatsuit of a fat guy on neighborhood watch doesn't say much. Scumbags across the spectrum are all very interested in protecting their turf.

    We can argue all night about how shitty it is that America has that as a reality but the reality is still the same: you should avoid certain places late at night because it's dangerous and people are nuts.

    Trayvon didn't "do anything." This is 100% true in the limited scope of the incident. But he was at the wrong place at the wrong time and became a victim of crime. Man-bites-dog part is what gets us.

    The media expects the Trayvons to do the shooting and the Zimmermans to do the dying. The fact that it was the opposite of that is what made for a great news story for the 24/7 Ticker Gods (TM).

    Also:

    ...

    My favorite is The 5th Element. You know, the part where Bruce Willis pulls the stones out of the dying blue tentacle-head. He's in a tux and she just got shot by warthog people while smuggling a lunchbox's worth of bricks in her vajayjay.
     
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  17. Xerxes

    Xerxes Bulking.



    @redux, I would like your thoughts on this article ...

    George Zimmerman never saw Trayvon Martin - Salon.com
     
  18. Stan

    Stan Resident Dumbass

    Location:
    Colorado
    A 17 year old Stan would have acted much like Travon did. If I wasn't doing anything wrong, I would have told Mr Zimmerman to fuck off.

    A Stan of any age would never have gotten out of the car.

    I think you could make an equally good case for Travon Martin standing his ground and defending himself. It would seem that the law is truly fucked if we attribute legality to the winner of a gunfight.
     
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  19. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida

    Watch where you're pointing that barrage of inflammatory reason.
     
  20. Bodkin van Horn

    Bodkin van Horn One of the Four Horsewomyn of the Fempocalypse

    If some creepy fucker was following me home, the last thing I'd want to do was actually lead the creepy fucker to my house where people I care about live and where said creepy fucker could return at his leisure.

    I think it could be argued that Zimmerman following Martin was at the very least an act of psychological violence. Martin had a much more credible reason to feel threatened than did Zimmerman, who could have walked away at any moment (prior to the moment where Martin was kicking his ass).
     
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