Trayvon Martin.

I have no problem with specifics. Not when it comes to deadly weapons in the hands of idiots.

 

I get the feeling that nobody is qualified in your eyes.

I mean, the police sure as hell can't be.

And if not them, then who?

 

maybe no one. maybe none of you are good enough.
that ever cross your mind?

 

It occurs to me that it says something about this whole case that the thread is posted in the politics forum - don't you think?

I'm not saying it's posted in the wrong place - it's the right place.

But it does say something, doesn't it?

 

It's got one of the 3 G's - guns, gays, and god. All three sneaked under the door of American politics when someone wasn't looking.

Then there's race, which has always been there.

 

As the OP of the thread, I sort of thought the (at the time) that the concealed carry and SYG aspects of the case were the most compelling. I do believe they are largely a matter of partisan politics. Not exclusively, but significantly.

 

And you were right!

Except for the racism thing, of course. I'm not convinced there was any real racism involved in the case itself, but - wow - didn't it become a factor in terms of the reaction?

The Martin case aside, I do wonder about this SYG thing. In theory I can see some sense in it - except for the part that says you only have to FEEL in danger (not actually BE in danger). That's how this kind of stuff happens. ... HCSO: Man shot to death at gas station after apparent road rage incident in northwest Harris County | abc13.com
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Gummint, global warming, G6, goat sex (keep the gummint out of my goat!) ... OK, maybe I made the last one up. I blame Gore.

 

The are the most compelling aspects, MM. They are also the aspects that are being overlooked or should I say, trampled on by the fact that a young black man was killed by a non-black assailant. After everything that has occurred over the past 5 - 10 years in respect to gun violence, I think we (the proverbial we) are still more comfortable arguing about race (or at least we are more practiced at it) than guns.

 

To be fair, I think the racial aspects are important, as well. Although not as overtly political. Racial aspects as well as socio-economic aspects. The fact that a young man was singled out for a combination of factors that made him look, possibly, 'no good.' Or, as GZ himself put it, one of 'these assholes.' Might he have reacted the same way to a young, skinny white dude in a hoodie? Possibly. Sure, why not? Perhaps someone else might have seen GZ walking in the rain wearing a hoodie and thought he was part of a class of 'assholes.' Then add to that the fact that people can carry guns and shoot them if they approach these 'hoodie wearers' to ask what they're doing and proceed to feel threatened by their response. First impressions die hard, no pun intended. Particularly in the dark. It really just boggles my mind that this is a 21st century possibility at all...let alone a reality. I can't even encapsulate it into one idea or even an assemblage of ideas it seems so ridiculous.

 

Actually, I can encapsulate it. In one word, even.

No.

 

So what if it's true? #FuckYourEndlessWars

 

I'm just going to leave this here:

George Zimmerman Questioned After Gun-Related Incident - Abby Ohlheiser - The Atlantic Wire

Not sure if there are any salient differences between his victim in this instance and his victim in the case where he killed that teenager. I wonder if Shellie Zimmerman was wearing a hoodie?

 

I wonder how long it will be before he should shoots someone else?

 

3 months sounds good.

 

I give him two years. Too much attention, he seems very self centered but able to control himself to some degree.

I see where he saying she made much of it up. Guess she and others are all lying, he's just a poor victim again.

 

But he's still getting attention and not even for the murder case