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Two New Handguns

Discussion in 'Tilted Weaponry' started by Chris Noyb, Dec 30, 2017.

  1. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    Mine is in hand, the other is on hold waiting for my wife's background check which was delayed, as expected, because she's a resident alien. I chose a Ruger American, 9mm, full size. Hers will be the Ruger SR9C, a concealed carry sized 9mm.

    I'd do links and provide more info, but I really dislike the hassles involved in posting from my phone.


    Once her BC clears we'll go to the range and try at least three brands of ammo. More posts to follow.
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  2. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    I hope it shoots well upside down.
     
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  3. MeltedMetalGlob

    MeltedMetalGlob Weirder Than Normal Donor

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  4. fflowley

    fflowley Don't just do something, stand there! Donor

    Nice!
    Do you already own handguns or are these your first?
     
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  5. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    I own several handguns and rifles, I posted a list here at TFP. The only semi-auto I own, until yesterday, is a Ruger Mark II Target .22. About 35 years ago I owned a Browning HiPower 9mm.

    The two new guns will require some re-learning and practice. We basically stopped shooting the Mark II once I found out it's a collectors item.
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  6. fflowley

    fflowley Don't just do something, stand there! Donor

    I have that exact same Ruger .22.
    And I'm old school, still prefer to shoot a revolver over semi-auto. My favorite is still my stainless Security Six .357 .
     
  7. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    This is a weird coincidence, I have a Ruger Security-Six, .357, SS, 6" barrel.
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    The American isn't a huge or light gun compared to some full sized high capacity 9s, but it isn't exactly a carry model either.

    Since my wife and I plan to get CHLs, I might need look at something more compact, but that will be way down the road. I have a Taurus M85 (model # ??) that would be easy to conceal. Of course the huge tradeoff is 17 + 1 SA vs 5 revolver. I tease my wife that we'll trade guns; she gives me her NFW look.
     
  8. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    This has very little to do with the new pistols (still waiting to hear re my wife's SR9C).

    I decided check and possibly oil a couple of our 'older' pistols in anticipation of heading to the range very soon. I field stripped the Ruger Mark II Target, had watch a couple of YouTube bids. The disassembly was a bit tough because of some very tight tolerances, and it has been shot very little.

    The reassembly was a major PITA. The combination of tight fits, how certain parts have to be positioned just so, and getting some aligned perfectly, caused me to watch the videos numerous times.

    That's what I get for treating it like a collectors item, instead of shooting it and learning it.
     
  9. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    My was cleared.

    We're been to the indoor range near us twice. On the first visit we took all of our handguns, basically to get a feel for the American and the SR9C, and to use up some old ammo. We have a nearly full 500 round brick of 'old' CCI .22 that needs to be finished.

    Last night we shot nearly 300 rounds of 9, and a bit over 200 rounds of .22. More practice is needed, but we are getting more comfortable with the new Rugers. The plus & minus is my wife now wants her own .22, a Ruger Mark IV. The Ruger 22/45 (it's not a conversion model) is super lightweight, but looks like movie prop.

    I'm being asked to help with dishes and breakfast. More later!
     
  10. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    Re the old ammo......

    We had .38, .357, & .22. I wasn't worried about shooting it because we used revolvers. On our first trip to the range I tested the .22 ammo in an old, but sound, Iver Johnson eight shot revolver. After 24 rounds I then tested it in the Mark II; it fired & cycled with no problems. We still have a few more boxes to use up. I did buy a fresh 550 brick of .22 hollowpoints, and they feed & cycle fine in the Mark II.

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    The SR9C with the 17 round clip with the grip extender is very comfortable to shoot. Neither of us cares for the 10 round clip with the pinky extender. It's not horrible, and makes sense for CC, but just feels weird after shooting the 17 round clip. Another factor is my wife doesn't have small hands. It came with a very useful clip loading tool, we're going to buy another one.

    I like the hefty feel of the American, but I'm not sold on the lack of a manual safety. It has a small view port to check for a chambered round, and has a side indicator you can feel, which would be very useful in the dark or a grab-and-be-ready-to-shoot situation.

    Noteworthy: The cost of the 9mm ammo we shot last night was around 65-70 dollars. The range fee was $10.00 for me (ladies shoot free on Mondays). I can definitely see us getting a second .22 semi-auto, just not anytime soon.

    If you're wondering about the gun prices.....the Ruger American 9 was on sale at Academy for $429.00, the SR9C was regular price $399.00. I was OK buying from Academy, but a real deal gun store with knowledgeable staff might be better for a complete new newbie.
     
  11. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    As you get used to the disassembling and reassembling a firearm, it should get easier. Right?

    Not so with the Mark II Target. When it takes two people and a dowel to disassemble it, and a metal rod (a screwdriver in my case) to reassemble it, that's way too much effort.
     
  12. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    We might be taking CHL classes very soon. Updates to follow.

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    I re-researched the Ruger Mark II Target. It's a special run of 2,000 done for Outdoor Sports (OS) in '89, model MK512S. The frame is stainless, the slide is black (blued), this makes the sights much more visible. Ruger did this on the pistols they provided to the US Olympic Shooting Team, and they did a limited run of 2,500 USOST models for the public around the time they did the the OS models. Despite the limited numbers, the MK512S isn't especially valuable, although used it could bring enough to cover the cost of a new Mark IV Target.
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    I left out the small rubber mallet needed to remove and reinstall the slide.
     
  13. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    My wife is waiting for her clearance so that she can pick up her new Ruger Mark IV Target. Academy had still has the blued model on sale for $399.00.

    The Mark IV disassembles with the push of one button.
     
  14. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    My wife & I took the CHL class today. The last step is emailing or mailing the certificates, and waiting 6-8 weeks; we'll email them later this afternoon.

    Oh my wife got clearance for the Mark IV. After seeing how easy it was to clean compared to the Mark II, I bought one while they were still on sale.
     
  15. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    I put comments in the First Handgun thread that should've been posted here.

    In brief (old & new news):

    My wife & I received our License To Carry Handgun.

    She carries a S&W Shield 9, version 1, PC (ported barrel, upgraded sights, improved trigger). Her OWB holster is a Blackhawk! SERPA; she doesn't currently use the paddle but plans to experiment with how it fits and feels. She bought a secondary holster, IWB, a De Santis Pro Stealth (Ambidextrous).

    I went with the Springfield Armory XDS 9 3.3 for carry. For OWB I chose the Q-Line QB-3 holster because it can be converted to however one wants to carry. I left it as RH front or hip carry, but did lower it about .5". The downsides are the moveable clip makes it bulkier than the SERPA, and it doesn't fit snugly against the body (but I also don't plan to do any running while using it). The XDS came with a basic IWB holster, SA-500 made by Tuff Products. The bit (proper name?) that keeps the grips from scratching my skin is very useful given the aggressively textured grips on the XDS.

    We need more range time, but are at least comfortable with our shooting at reasonable distances (for self-defense situations). Becoming proficient at drawing and shooting accurately quickly (two seconds, or less?) will take some time. I'm considering taking some shooting classes.
     
  16. ChrisJericho

    ChrisJericho Careless whisper

    Location:
    Fraggle Rock
    Good to hear there are more people carrying. The SERPA holsters have really fallen out of favor within "the community" though. Many trainers in classes won't allow them because accidents sometimes happen due to people having to use their finger to draw the gun.

    I took training classes and thought they were invaluable. They weren't just useful to make sure you're drawing and shooting correctly, but also made you think about other things like 1)What are you going to say to the police when they arrive? 2)When are you justified in using your gun in self defense in your state? 3)Are you willing to protect other people in public who aren't your friends and family? 4) Are you prepared to be sued even if you used your gun in self-defense?

    Just a lot of things to think about and it's better to have thought about them beforehand rather than when you're covered in blood in the police station at 2am because you just shot a meth head who was breaking into your house.
     
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