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Politics What is happening????

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by pan6467, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. redux

    redux Very Tilted Donor

    Foggy Bottom
    Trump's Commission on Law Enforcement and the Administration of Justice is certainly moving in the complete opposite direction of Obama's Task Force on 21st Century Policing and appears to be almost entirely focused on giving more powers to law enforcement officials at the state/local level in a manner that I would characterize as authoritarian. It brought to mind Trump's admiration for Philippine president Duterte and his extrajudicial methods to deal with illegal drug dealers.

    It also plays to Trump's faux populist talking points about "violent crime in the cities" when in fact, with a few exceptions, violent crimes (and property crimes) have been on the decline for the last 20+ years.

    There is certainly a need to focus on improving the safety of police officers who put their lives on the line every day. There is an equally critical need to focus on acknowledging abuses by police that are still relatively common, the need for better training for police and improving police/community relations, particularly in minority communities. All of these were the focus of Obama's Task Force that was tossed into the trash heap upon Trump's arrival.
  2. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Unfortunately, a good portion of Americans these days have no idea what we’re talking about,
    ...for many things

    Ignorance is NOT bliss
    The truck can still run ya down
    Whether one in the crosswalk or not.

    Here, we’ve got a big old orange fascist truck
    No matter what uniform (including a fancy suit)

    Besides, if ya haven’t noticed
    People can rationalize anything...especially an “inconvenience”

    At least Nazi is a big red stop sign
    Even the most oblivious of us can become aware by muscle memory.
    Fortunately/unfortunately, they are still historically number one villain on the hit list.
    People react.
  3. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Where ever I roam
  4. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    The Billion-Dollar Disinformation Campaign to Reelect the President

    It’s going to be “special”
    It’s going to be REAL
    It’s going to be surreal
    It’s going to be scary

    Get ready
    Think for yourself
    Give time for things to sink in
    Give a day for validation

    And this is just going to get worse
    And it’s global...not just the US

    We may not let nukes go off
    But we’re all not above messing with each other’s heads

    Don’t panic
    Be aware
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  5. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    I’m signing off from the political section for some time
    I’m investing too much energy, time & mind here.

    If ya don’t know what’s happening by now
    You don’t need me telling ya


    See ya in other parts :)
  6. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Where ever I roam
    Yeah, I do think that there is an active psychological war going on, at least that is the campaign method being used in 2020, and few people know how to combat it.
  7. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Large City, TX
    Keep posting.

    If nothing else, it helps to vent.
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  8. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Thank you very much, sir
    I appreciate it.

    I’m around, modding and such.
    (would u believe others have said I post too much here??)

    I’m investing my paranoias into the Coronavirus right now.
    That has more immediate personal impact. (and for pretty much everything)

    “The Circus” can do without one less clown.
    Real life is happening for this clown.

    Besides, since I’m a GDI I can’t vote in the primaries
    So it’s out of my hands right now until the general election.
    (To be honest, if I was Dem, I’d vote for Warren
    She’s what this country needs now, no ego, cares about the common man and she’s tireless...what I look for in a prez.)

    Mr. T’s corruption and Idiocracy is moot
    We pretty much know he’s a living Jabba the Hutt with the brain of a Sarlac. No need to cycle that mush. The media is on him like white on rice now.

    Y’all are good :)
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  9. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect Donor

    At work..
    and i learn things that i didnt know
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  10. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Opinion | Coronavirus Is What You Get When You Ignore Science

    I get sick at the dismissal and disdain thrown at scientists often
    yes, they are fallible
    yes, they may not know how to speak to laypeople
    But the info they provide is important.

    Challenge is with the variety of reports that go out, it saturates and conflicts each other.

    However, when a preponderance of scientists are saying something is WRONG then its wrong.
    If most are saying be CAREFUL be careful.

    It's just common sense.

    And if they get it wrong, at least know they most often are right, they deal in reality, try for no bias, try to give good info,
    Which IS better than many of our politicians, populists, leaders, celebrities and even religious vips

    So if ya don't know what they're saying, don't dismiss it
    Simply ask for a more straight-forward summary.
    Most will get it and adjust...

    ...they're just excited what they found and are trying to cover the bases with science associates (who are picky & particular :rolleyes:)
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  11. redux

    redux Very Tilted Donor

    Foggy Bottom
    Staggering numbers from Congressional Budget Office...
    U.S. economy shrinking 40 percent, unemployment rate hitting 15 percent and deficit approaching $4 trillion

    CBO details coronavirus economic shock
    Trump is hoping for some signs of economic recovery before the election and I just dont see that happening, even with the $3 trillion stimulus.
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  12. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Where ever I roam
    There is no way the US is ever going to pay off the national debt. We are just going to keep spending a large percentage of our tax dollars on paying off the interest on that debt forever it seems.

    I am surprised that after the 2009 recession that businesses are so fragile that they couldn't survive for a few months off of their savings.
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  13. MeltedMetalGlob

    MeltedMetalGlob Resident Loser Donor

    Who cares, really?
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  14. omega

    omega Very Tilted

    I read something the otber day about the foolsihmess of trying to compare blue lives matter to black lives matter. Paraphrasing.

    There are no blue lives. It's a job. At the end of the day, you take your uniform off. No one knows what your job is unless you run around telling everyone you're a badass. Black people cannot chamge their skin. It's 24/7/365. They take that to the grave. Blue is blue for 8 or ten hours a day. They go home and they're not blue. And yes, as a reminder, that is me in my avatar. And it was a job. And I am not peoud of what a lot of people have done to the field of law enforcement.
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  15. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Americans Were Primed To Believe The Current Onslaught Of Disinformation

    Life after QAnon: Trump's loss allows some to escape conspiracy cult's grip

    I have a hard time getting this...

    Why would you think of something so absurd???

    People really need to start developing some filtering skills. (including the left too)

    It's easy for some to dive into "what ifs"
    BUT there has to be some relation to the truth.
    Does it pass the test?
    Is there a real trend?

    As an example, I'll even use the story of China initially releasing the virus. (one I'm still gunning for)
    This has been stated by some experts as false.
    Ok, I have to give them some credit and listen to.
    Is there proof? (On my part...and theirs)

    Now, I have to be rational about this...make sure I'm not reading into things.
    And give some credit that I may be off track.
    That's what good skepticism...good research...decent logic...and checking yourself, that needs to happen.

    Now for this story...there's still something to chew on...China is still not allowing outside observers. (my resources inside the fed govt still say something is fishy)

    But I'm using legit sources for my doubts. established experts and entities.

    Some of the conspiracies and disinformation are sensationalistic. Coming from those with conflicts of interest.
    Are you being suckered??
    Is it realistic?

    Mass pedophilia?

    Sure, there may be dark corruption in the government.
    It's in most...everywhere.
    But to what extent? Is it random...or organized?

    And if you believe it about one side. Why not the other? (perhaps both?)
    Are you being "tribal"?

    I'll be honest...I'm ready to think the worst of Trump at times.
    So I have to check myself...ask what sounds realistic.

    We're are own worst enemy sometimes. Irrational.

    What survives the TEST??
    That's the truth...something that is tested and investigated by ALL.

    Snopes, FactCheck, etc...
    All of these resources are our friends, they help straighten out the real deal.

    But if something sounds unreal...it probably is.
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  16. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Large City, TX
  17. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Unfortunately, I do know quite a few that feed into this paranoia. Even if you’re talking in a positive context, like discussing trying to improve the system.
    They find holes in everything. Trust isn’t a big thing to them.

    Basically, there’s just a big anti-government mindset out there.

    And many like T, because they think he’s tearing it up from the inside. Ignoring the fact he’s basically twisting it to promote his power and corruption.
    (It’s still government, just to benefit him)

    Actually, that’s a big contributor for him. Anti-government PACs and otherwise.

    It’s an extreme libertarian sentiment.
    They’re just doing it under the GOP umbrella
  18. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Large City, TX
    Yes, I know people who absolutely believe election fraud occurred, and will never change their mind no matter any amount of evidence to the contrary. I just don't see the percentage being that high.

    Trump definitely pulled off a major "outsider" scam.
    The 2016 Perfect Storm Of Discontent.
    The 2020 We Love Trump, and Even Trump Is Better Than A Democrat (thankfully this mix wasn't enough).
  19. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Where ever I roam
    I know plenty of far left progressives who don't trust the voting machines.

    Although it might be possible to add or remove a few votes, doing enough to change the election result would be difficult.
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  20. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member


    The UK too...and several other nations.
    They don't have to try at the moment.

    We've got a dark side and are seriously addicted to a hallucinogenic drug.

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