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Women in the Military

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by genuinemommy, Aug 5, 2021.

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Should women be permitted to serve in the military?

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  1. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    I bumped into someone who was really bothered that any women are permitted to serve in the US military. They were a woman themselves and were completely appalled that women would ever be permitted to serve with men.

    It was shocking to hear that perspective. I personally admire women in the military and have considered joining myself on a number of occasions.

    I have female friends and family members who served in the military. Best friend's grandma was a fighter pilot, for instance.

    I'm curious what others have to think about this.
     
  2. redux

    redux Very Tilted Donor

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    Women should absolutely have the right to serve in the US military.

    Harry Truman opened all branches of military service (limited to non-combat roles) to women in 1948.

    Obama, in 2015, extended it further, by opening all combat roles to women.
    Last week, a Senate Committee, in drafting the annual defense spending bill (National Defense Authorization Act- NDAA), included a provision that would require women to register with Selective Service at age 18. The basis was a lawsuit by ACLU that only requiring men to register violates federal anti-discrimination laws. The House initially had a similar provision in it's NDAA bill, but conservatives demanded it be dropped.

    Senate panel votes to make women register for draft

    At least one Senate Republican opposes the provision.


    View: https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1418626950516682752
     
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  3. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    My ex-wife believed that load of horse-hocky
    Despite being a bold brave woman herself who's do battle in a split second. Outside the military that is. (combative and a steamroller...one of the many reasons I said no mas)

    Me. I take the Israeli view...ALL should have the opportunity.
    Women kick butt in the military just as much as men there.

    Although, they take it a step further and say everyone goes in for a stint. Duty.
    Me, I prefer all volunteer. No draft.

    War is done different these days anyways.

    However, if they ARE going to do it...then ALL signs up.
     
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  4. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect Donor

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    Fuck yes i think women can serve in the military. If they want to serve their country, their is no difference in a man or a women in the military.

    The only thing that i disagree with is that you never hear of a woman general its always a man. but maybe im wrong.
     
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  5. Dayja New Member

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    I agree, women can serve in the military and I do agree they should have the same opportunities as the men with rankings.

    One thing I hope they take into consideration if they do start force women to sign up for draft, is families. If both parents get called to serve, who will take care of the children.
     
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  6. Stan

    Stan Resident Dumbass

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    I'm not sure why this would even be an issue for anyone. It was decided decades ago, women have served with honor for years.

    I'm not a fan of the draft. We haven't drafted anyone since Viet Nam. I'd just pass on legislation that addresses drafting women until we have a need to do so.
     
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  7. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect Donor

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    @genuinemommy what do you dislike about
     
  8. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    Loved the first part!
    Thumbs down was probably too strong of a response to not knowing about any women generals. I edited my response to a heart.
    Recent news!
    Biden Names 2 Women Generals to Lead Military Commands
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 7, 2021, Original Post Date: Aug 7, 2021 ---
    There are plenty of families with two parents in the military. They won't deploy two parents at the same time. There are ways to file for reconsideration. They'll end up having one of the parents serve someplace "safe" where the kids can live with them on base. Edit: I found mention of couples that deployed together and left their kids in the care of grandparents for a few months. Interesting way to manage that!
     
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  9. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect Donor

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    OH, I just never hear of any women generals in the military. Its always men that you hear about. and it should not be that way.
     
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  10. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

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    As someone who unofficially "served" in a science and research capacity for the DOD, I think the military isn't ready for women to serve. I actually have more female friends who are soldiers than male ones, and they are all capable. However, the system isn't setup to protect women from other male soldiers currently. And I don't see that changing anytime soon, since it is almost impossible to change males attraction and imagination to women at that age.

    I do support a draft of all medically cleared 18-23 year olds to serve in a non-combat role for 6 months (maybe 3 or 4 months if they are going to college) however. It could be any branch of the military, agency, or government organization. They will get paid, gain some experience, learn how the government works, socialize with new people, and have a purpose greater than themselves. Some organizations will have no problem finding jobs for thousands of young adults, others will have a harder time at it, but the country needs a lot of work done to move it forward.
     
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  11. redux

    redux Very Tilted Donor

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    I'm guessing you are referring to the serious issue of sexual assault in the military. DoD’s most recent report estimates almost 21,000 service members were sexually assaulted in 2018.

    There is a bi-partisan bill, led by Sen.Kirsten Gillibrand, and surprisingly including Ted Cruz, currently working through the Senate that addresses the issue. It has strong White House support unlike the previous administration.

    Senators Gillibrand, Grassley, Ernst, Blumenthal, Cruz, Shaheen, Kelly And Military Sexual Assault Advocates Introduce New, Bipartisan Military Justice Improvement And Increasing Prevention Act

    "The military justice reform bill would professionalize how the military prosecutes serious crimes by moving the decision to prosecute from the chain of command to independent, trained, professional military prosecutors, and provides for several new prevention provisions such as more and better training for commanders and increased physical security measures..."​

    This would be a significant improvement, but you are certainly correct in that it wont change "males attraction..to women" at that age.
     
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  12. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

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    Ted Cruz is making a political move, jumping on the Vanessa Guillen bandwagon.

    That ^ statement reads poorly. I'm all in favor of changes to how the military handles sexual harassment charges, I don't like Cruz using what happened to Vanessa Guillen for publicity and political gain.
     
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